Runway - Revision history

Whiteted: /* Tutorials */ pal leans are worst but possible

2021-07-29T17:15:53Z

Tutorials: pal leans are worst but possible

BurnsBA: update with discord chat info

2021-07-29T03:01:45Z

update with discord chat info

BurnsBA: agent version tip

2021-07-29T02:52:00Z

agent version tip

BurnsBA: plane hitbox

2021-07-19T17:40:58Z

plane hitbox

BurnsBA: change to single column on references

2021-07-19T17:28:13Z

change to single column on references

BurnsBA: key, table, tip

2021-07-19T17:24:13Z

key, table, tip

BurnsBA: 2.x cinema

2021-07-19T13:47:19Z

2.x cinema

BurnsBA: comment on 2.x favored

2021-07-19T13:33:57Z

comment on 2.x favored

BurnsBA: add info from critique thread

2021-07-19T13:22:05Z

add info from critique thread

Whiteted: /* Hut grenade */ actual link for the 0.10-0.15 timesave

2021-07-16T21:03:47Z

Hut grenade: actual link for the 0.10-0.15 timesave

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 * 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Grav|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.
-* NTSC is favored over PAL for Agent and Secret Agent 0:22 ([[R-Lean]] is not possible on PAL, so a competitive 00 time is not possible)<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=23135.msg461963#msg461963|title=the-elite forum post "Going for runway 22 with 1.2 on PAL. After 1400 23s, i'd like some pointers"|author=Falangen|access-date=July 28, 2021}}</ref>.
+* NTSC is favored over PAL for Agent and Secret Agent 0:22<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=23135.msg461963#msg461963|title=the-elite forum post "Going for runway 22 with 1.2 on PAL. After 1400 23s, i'd like some pointers"|author=Falangen|access-date=July 28, 2021}}</ref>. And on 00A the same general preference exists, but also the [[R-Lean|R-Leaned]] grenades don't go as far on PAL, so the longer lines would lead to direct time loss.
 * When using 2.x, let the first cinema play but cut the second cinema immediately. Bond moves forward at the start of it; cutting means you will have to turn less to get the nades and save some time<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg450763#msg450763|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Niiro Kitsune|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.

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 * 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Grav|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.
-* NTSC is favored over PAL for Agent 0:22<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=23135.msg461963#msg461963|title=the-elite forum post "Going for runway 22 with 1.2 on PAL. After 1400 23s, i'd like some pointers"|author=Falangen|access-date=July 28, 2021}}</ref>.
+* NTSC is favored over PAL for Agent and Secret Agent 0:22 ([[R-Lean]] is not possible on PAL, so a competitive 00 time is not possible)<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=23135.msg461963#msg461963|title=the-elite forum post "Going for runway 22 with 1.2 on PAL. After 1400 23s, i'd like some pointers"|author=Falangen|access-date=July 28, 2021}}</ref>.
 * When using 2.x, let the first cinema play but cut the second cinema immediately. Bond moves forward at the start of it; cutting means you will have to turn less to get the nades and save some time<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg450763#msg450763|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Niiro Kitsune|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.

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 ; General tips
-* 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored. <ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Grav|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>
+* 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Grav|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.
 * When using 2.x, let the first cinema play but cut the second cinema immediately. Bond moves forward at the start of it; cutting means you will have to turn less to get the nades and save some time<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg450763#msg450763|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Niiro Kitsune|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.

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 * 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored. <ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Grav|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>
-* When using 2.x, let the first cinema play but cut the second cinema immediately. It means you will have to turn less to get the nades and save some time<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg450763#msg450763|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Niiro Kitsune|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.
+* When using 2.x, let the first cinema play but cut the second cinema immediately. Bond moves forward at the start of it; cutting means you will have to turn less to get the nades and save some time<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg450763#msg450763|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Niiro Kitsune|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.
 * Whether or not you get full strength grenade boosts is mostly out of your control.<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447592#msg447592|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=Icy|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>
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 * Aim left of the key, to be in right strafe by the time you actually pick it up, making for a better line leaving (and no grinding on the table)<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg452844#msg452844|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"|author=SGT RAGEQUIT|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.
 === Agent ===

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 ==References==
-{{Reflist|2}}
+{{Reflist}}
 [[Category:GE Strats]]

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	* Try to get the maximum of the first hut boost because it's the easiest to get the timing right and should be somewhat consistent. Using the full boost momentum is important there, you should turn while getting boosted and end up in the best line possible to the plane<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447607#msg447607\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=vitorr\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>		* Try to get the maximum of the first hut boost because it's the easiest to get the timing right and should be somewhat consistent. Using the full boost momentum is important there, you should turn while getting boosted and end up in the best line possible to the plane<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447607#msg447607\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=vitorr\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>
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		+	* Aim left of the key, to be in right strafe by the time you actually pick it up, making for a better line leaving (and no grinding on the table)<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg452844#msg452844\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=SGT RAGEQUIT\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.

	=== Agent ===		=== Agent ===

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	* 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored. <ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Grav\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>		* 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored. <ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Grav\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>
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		+	* When using 2.x, let the first cinema play but cut the second cinema immediately. It means you will have to turn less to get the nades and save some time<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg450763#msg450763\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Niiro Kitsune\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>.

	* Whether or not you get full strength grenade boosts is mostly out of your control.<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447592#msg447592\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Icy\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>		* Whether or not you get full strength grenade boosts is mostly out of your control.<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447592#msg447592\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Icy\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>

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	; General tips		; General tips
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		+	* 2.x [[Control Style]] is favored. <ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg448375#msg448375\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Grav\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>

	* Whether or not you get full strength grenade boosts is mostly out of your control.<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447592#msg447592\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Icy\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>		* Whether or not you get full strength grenade boosts is mostly out of your control.<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447592#msg447592\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Icy\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>

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	== Tutorials ==		== Tutorials ==
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		+	; General tips
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		+	* Whether or not you get full strength grenade boosts is mostly out of your control.<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447592#msg447592\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=Icy\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>
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		+	* The hut nade should be close to the doorframe for a more direct boost, rather than a semi side-boost. Try to bounce it off the wall.
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		+	* Try to get the maximum of the first hut boost because it's the easiest to get the timing right and should be somewhat consistent. Using the full boost momentum is important there, you should turn while getting boosted and end up in the best line possible to the plane<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=21944.msg447607#msg447607\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Runs For Critique Here!"\|author=vitorr\|access-date=July 19, 2021}}</ref>

	=== Agent ===		=== Agent ===

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 === Hut grenade ===
-The "last piece of the puzzle" found by Berg during his strategising for the [https://rankings.the-elite.net/~berg/time/206357 agent untied], and measured as saving a surprising 0.10-0.15s on console. Also called "eliminating the hut [[Guards|guards]]", it just involves tossing a grenade very imprecisely in the hut somewhere to kill both of the guards there. This is incredibly free and should be used by all players. <ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=23426.msg464467#msg464467|title=comment on Agent 0:21|access-date=July 16, 2021}}</ref>
+The "last piece of the puzzle" found by Berg during his strategising for the [https://rankings.the-elite.net/~berg/time/206357 agent untied], and measured as saving a surprising 0.10-0.15s on console. Also called "eliminating the hut [[Guards|guards]]", it just involves tossing a grenade very imprecisely in the hut somewhere to kill both of the guards there. This is incredibly free and should be used by all players. <ref>https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=843.msg464151#msg464151</ref>
 The thinking is that these guards spend a significant part of the run aiming at Bond down the entire length of the runway, and the end of the run is already more [[Lag|laggy]] due to explosions and other runway guards. It has always been done on SA out of necessity - these guards regularly blow up the plane - but on agent it was assumed that the extra grenade explosion would just make more lag, and so cost time if anything.