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Whiteted: remove Henrik's post - I've already worked it into the pause trick section

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remove Henrik's post - I've already worked it into the pause trick section

BurnsBA: pause trick tips

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pause trick tips

Whiteted at 15:39, 10 July 2021

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Whiteted: /* Pause Duration */

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Pause Duration

Whiteted: promote pause trick out of quickpause

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promote pause trick out of quickpause

Whiteted: Whiteted moved page Pause to Pausing: better name

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Whiteted moved page Pause to Pausing: better name

Whiteted at 15:30, 10 July 2021

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Whiteted: corrections & tweaks

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 === Pause Duration ===
-The initial pause from a [[#Pause angle|good angle]] takes around 3.65 seconds. There are several stages to the pause and the end of each of these is effected by lag, so there is some variation. However the savings from previous (quick)pauses only effect one stage, so can be stated precisely:
+The initial pause from a [[#Pause angle|good angle]] takes around 3.65 seconds<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=18518.msg381786#msg381786|title=the-elite facts topic post on pausing, time, and angles|author=Wyst3r|access-date=July 24, 2021}}</ref>. There are several stages to the pause and the end of each of these is effected by lag, so there is some variation. However the savings from previous (quick)pauses only effect one stage, so can be stated precisely:
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 == 'Pause trick' ==
-Also known as the 'Train & Cradle pause trick', this small timesave just uses the lag generated at the start of the pause<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=854.msg408149#msg408149|title=the-elite forum post "Post Your Best Legit (And Semi-Legit) Fails Here!"|author=Wyst3r|access-date=July 21, 2021}}</ref>.
+Also known as the 'Train & Cradle pause trick', this small timesave just uses the lag generated at the start of the pause<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=854.msg408149#msg408149|title=the-elite forum post "Post Your Best Legit (And Semi-Legit) Fails Here!"|author=Wyst3r|access-date=July 21, 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=18518.msg398376#msg398376|title=facts topic post on level end time save|author=Wyst3r|access-date=July 24, 2021}}</ref>.
 At the end of both of these levels you are just waiting for a timer to finish running in one of the [[level scripts]]. During a game tick, these scripts run before the mission time is incremented. As such, as far as we are concerned, the level ends '''the frame before''' the timer expires. The longer (laggier) this last frame is, the more time is saved.
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 == Full pause process ==
-Pausing goes through various numbered stages:
+Pausing goes through various numbered stages<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=18518.msg470349#msg470349|title=facts topic post on pausing|author=Whiteted|access-date=July 24, 2021}}</ref>:
 # Equips watch (lag) and wait a frame
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 (4) takes 0.75s / speed.
-== External Links ==
+==References==
-* [https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=18518.msg381786#msg381786 the-elite facts topic post on quick pausing]
+{{Reflist}}
 [[Category:GE Technical]]
 [[Category:GoldenEye 007]]

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 == 'Pause trick' ==
-Also known as the 'Train & Cradle pause trick', this small timesave just uses the lag generated at the start of the pause.
+Also known as the 'Train & Cradle pause trick', this small timesave just uses the lag generated at the start of the pause<ref>{{cite web | url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=854.msg408149#msg408149|title=the-elite forum post "Post Your Best Legit (And Semi-Legit) Fails Here!"|author=Wyst3r|access-date=July 21, 2021}}</ref>.
 At the end of both of these levels you are just waiting for a timer to finish running in one of the [[level scripts]]. During a game tick, these scripts run before the mission time is incremented. As such, as far as we are concerned, the level ends '''the frame before''' the timer expires. The longer (laggier) this last frame is, the more time is saved.

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	The trick is not applicable to any other levels e.g. Egypt. In the endings of those levels you want as low lag as possible.		The trick is not applicable to any other levels e.g. Egypt. In the endings of those levels you want as low lag as possible.
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−	~~=== Tips ===~~
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−	To analyze if the trick was successful or not, you can check for the following signs (This assumes you only press Start once)<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=854.msg408149#msg408149\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Your Best Legit (And Semi-Legit) Fails Here!"\|author=Wyst3r\|access-date=July 21, 2021}}</ref>:
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−	~~# A lag spike must be noticeable. (if not, you paused too late)~~
−	~~# Your angle must be identical before and after the lag spike. (if not, you paused too early)~~
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−	In order to check #2, you should always use a lot of (or full) lookdown when doing this trick. To see why, imagine if your angle was exactly -40 before the pause (this is the angle the game takes you to during the pause animation). In this case, your angle wouldn't change at all when pausing, and you'd be completely unable to tell if the trick was successful or not. Lookdown also ensures that the platform below is visible on screen, which makes it easier (possible) to tell if your angle changed or not.
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−	Also worth noting: The amount of time saved depends on how early you pause (since you're suspending the in-game timer in the state it was when you paused). For example, if you pause 1 frame before fadeout, you'll successfully do the trick but you will only save 1 frame. Pausing 20 frames before fadeout will save 20 frames if successful.

	== Full pause process ==		== Full pause process ==

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	The trick is not applicable to any other levels e.g. Egypt. In the endings of those levels you want as low lag as possible.		The trick is not applicable to any other levels e.g. Egypt. In the endings of those levels you want as low lag as possible.

		+	=== Tips ===
		+
		+	To analyze if the trick was successful or not, you can check for the following signs (This assumes you only press Start once)<ref>{{cite web \| url=https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=854.msg408149#msg408149\|title=the-elite forum post "Post Your Best Legit (And Semi-Legit) Fails Here!"\|author=Wyst3r\|access-date=July 21, 2021}}</ref>:
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		+	# A lag spike must be noticeable. (if not, you paused too late)
		+	# Your angle must be identical before and after the lag spike. (if not, you paused too early)
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		+	In order to check #2, you should always use a lot of (or full) lookdown when doing this trick. To see why, imagine if your angle was exactly -40 before the pause (this is the angle the game takes you to during the pause animation). In this case, your angle wouldn't change at all when pausing, and you'd be completely unable to tell if the trick was successful or not. Lookdown also ensures that the platform below is visible on screen, which makes it easier (possible) to tell if your angle changed or not.
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		+	Also worth noting: The amount of time saved depends on how early you pause (since you're suspending the in-game timer in the state it was when you paused). For example, if you pause 1 frame before fadeout, you'll successfully do the trick but you will only save 1 frame. Pausing 20 frames before fadeout will save 20 frames if successful.

	== Full pause process ==		== Full pause process ==

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 Also relevant to runs are the control style / screen settings but because of the time cost these are never the sole reason for pausing.
-Starting a pause creates a large [[lag spike]] as the watch is spawned, of ~0.3s, which is exploited in [[#'Pause trick'|some places]].
+Starting a pause creates a large [[lag|lag spike]] as the watch is spawned, of ~0.3s, which is exploited in [[#'Pause trick'|some places]].
 == Equipping items ==

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-Underneath these numbers is a 10% exponential decay, but rounding and subtleties give rise to a pretty steady saving between 2 and 5 previous pauses.
+Underneath these numbers is a 10% exponential increase to the pause speed, but rounding and subtleties give rise to a pretty steady saving between 2 and 5 previous pauses.
 === Worked examples ===

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-== Overview ==
+Pausing is necessary to pull out any [[Gadgets]] - pressing switch (A in 1.2) during normal play will only cycle through [[Weapons]].
-Pausing is necessary to pull out any [[Gadgets]] - pressing switch (A in 1.2) in normal play will only cycle through [[Weapons]].
+Unlike many games, including [[Perfect Dark]], the act of pausing is far from instant, taking around 3.65s initially. The level is still active (and in particular the mission timer is still running) throughout the animation as Bond enters / leaves the watch. The game is only actually paused while the watch fills the entire screen, though you can do nothing useful except wait during the watch animations, or press pause again to start unpausing.
 Also relevant to runs are the control style / screen settings but because of the time cost these are never the sole reason for pausing.
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 Quick Pausing is a method used in [[GoldenEye]] to speed up pauses.
-By design, subsequent pauses get exponentially faster, until the 7th which peaks at around 2.4s for both of the animations. All further pauses then take the same amount of time.
+By design, subsequent pauses get exponentially faster, until the 7th which peaks at around 2.40s for both of the animations. All further pauses then take the same amount of time.
 However the 'pause counter' is incremented when you '''start''' entering a pause. A ''quickpause'' involves pressing pause twice in quick but precise succession (though some people triple-tap just for timing). The 1st starts the pause, and the 2nd registers just after the lag spike, causing you to unpause immediately. A good quickpause doesn't dip the camera at all, and the ammo counter will disappear only briefly, if at all.
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 === Pause Duration ===
-The initial pause from a [[good angle]] takes around 3.65 seconds. There are several stages to the pause and the end of each of these is effected by lag, so there is some variation. However the savings from previous (quick)pauses only effect one stage, so can be stated precisely:
+The initial pause from a [[#Pause angle|good angle]] takes around 3.65 seconds. There are several stages to the pause and the end of each of these is effected by lag, so there is some variation. However the savings from previous (quick)pauses only effect one stage, so can be stated precisely:
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-|2||1.26s||1.26 - 0.86s = 0.40s
+|3||1.26s||1.26 - 0.86s = 0.40s
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 At the end of both of these levels you are just waiting for a timer to finish running in one of the [[level scripts]]. During a game tick, these scripts run before the mission time is incremented. As such, as far as we are concerned, the level ends '''the frame before''' the timer expires. The longer (laggier) this last frame is, the more time is saved.
-The best method seems to be to simply press Start once before the fadeout, with good timing. The earlier you press it, the more time you save. But if you press it too early you'll not save anything. This is obvious because you'll see the start of the pause animation: So assuming you were looking straight down, your angle will have changed upwards if it failed, or bonds arm might be visible. You want your angle/view to be the same before/after fadeout starts.
+The best method seems to be to simply press Start once before the fadeout, with good timing. The earlier you press it, the more time you save. But if you press it too early you'll not save anything. It's obvious if this has happened because you'll see the start of the pause animation: the camera angle will have jumped or bonds arm might have spawned in (if you are looking down). You want your angle/view to be the same before and after fadeout starts.
-In theory you can create more lag on train by using the smoke generated from dual guns (potentially around 0.06s more saving), but the pause trick is far more practical and reliable.
+In theory you can create more lag on train by using the smoke generated from dual guns (potentially saving around 0.06s more), but the pause trick is far more practical and reliable.
 The trick is not applicable to any other levels e.g. Egypt. In the endings of those levels you want as low lag as possible.